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MervThomas
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PostSubject: Concert Discussion   Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:51 am

Not really a question, I just want to bring up a few thing that I have learn and to confirm if there are any errors or things I don't know because of lack of experience.

For concert Events, I found that, for the requirement of Attribute and
Skills.
Attribute at the level of Good and above will give you one star in the event.
Attribute at the level of Perfect will give you two stars in the event.
Skill at the level of three stars will give you one star in the event.
Skill at the level of five stars will give you two stars in the event.

Now that, for example
Dancing 5* + Look terrible = 2 stars (Perform a dance on stage)
Genre Skill 5* + Dancing 5* + Look terrible = 4 stars (Do the Robot)
Instrument 0* + Musicality wonderful = 1 star (Tune Instrument)


For concert design.
I am not really experienced in this department, also lack of skills to test it out. So I am basically speaking from my own theory.

Overall hype of the audiences is what gives the rating to the concert, the hype also raise gradually based on the songs and events. Letís say that, if you put events such as Crank up the Volume at the beginning, audience hype will reach to the 5 stars level. But without a good song or another high stars events to follow, the hype will drop dramatically. In order to prevent this issue as a newbie band, it would be the best to put it in as one of the final events. Because of that, low stars events should be assigning at the beginning of the show with mix of medium stars events in between at a level.

Example for the events in this order
2* Enter Stage
1*
2*
1*
2*
2*
3*
2*
3*
4*
2* Leave Stage

With this order, the hype of the audience will maintain at the level of 1-2
stars at the first half of the show and then slowly raise in the middle of the
show to 2-3 stars and then finally bring up to 3-4 stars at the end.

Let me know what you think. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:09 pm

All seems logical. I never really bothered to check any of it, and I doubt I'll ever care for my own shows, but it looks good Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:08 pm

Well, this isn't that bad at all actually. It kinda looks like how we design shows. I'd move the 2nd 1 star event up though, so you got a steady line upwards in your show design. start with the worst and end with the best you have.

This is why it's good to have Crank Up The Volume as the last event, either before your last song or after.
Don't put events during the encores though, this will fail miserably.


and Clayton: this is the most important factor of a good show, you should really pay attention to how you design it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:50 am

Maybe I might once I get into the top 100 somewhere next week.
After that I need to work hard to get to the top 20 Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:53 pm

me and the boys are working hard to get to the top #1500 xD

what can i do to help the bandleader? besides improving my skills? or i just have to show up in the concert?
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:07 pm

Keep an eye out for news that might affect your band.
ALWAYS show up for jams and shows etc. But you will be moved there, so just make sure you are in the right city at the right time (and not being on a date when it starts etc), and you will be alright.
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:28 pm

k thanks =)
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:44 pm

I have a question about concerts. does booking concerts back to back in the same city (ex. i have 2 concerts in paris. one on 9/18, one on 9/19) help raise your fame in that city?
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:47 pm

Thats what I thought Barend said. It won't.
Not sure here.
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:50 pm

oh well, at least it will mean more money for ticket sales (if any sell that is Razz )
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:53 pm

another question: does talking to the media help ticket sales any?
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:56 pm

I never done that. I used to think it was a waste of updates.

You do have Media Level 1 from the record studio as well though, so there's some promotion already.
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:02 pm

about back to back: no, they changed that a long time ago. unless you sell 10,000 tickets with still 2 weeks till the concert, this is heavily unadvisable. mainly because you won't sell tickets for the second gig.

about talking to the media: if you have succesful updates, you get a small fame increase. the only way this is really effective though is when:
1. you are in a city you have never played before
2. you are the bandleader (a lot more effect, other bandmembers have almost no effect)
3. you have Basic Media Manipulation, Public Relations and high charm.

point 3 isn't really necessary, but it will help the chances of a succesful update (and the effect) greatly. without any of these it's not really worth it. you can better skill instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Concert Discussion   Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:07 pm

i have above average charm, i am the band leader, and currently searching for a teacher of basic media manipulation. it seems that i got a 5% mood boost from talking to the media successfully as well.
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