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PostSubject: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:39 am

I just realesed my first singel and I have a question: Will the singel start selling in another city of I'll get populer there?
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:47 am

another question: from what time is it profitable and good to release a single? how good should th song be?
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:01 am

To make money with single, yourband have to have dreadful fame in at last five, or maybe ten cities. You can sell a few copies witheven abysmal fame too but profit will be too low, it won't worth your efforts...

I'm sure Clayton will take care of your singles with his adviceswhenit'sthetime : )
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:51 am

You dont need it in multiple cities, you will just sell records in only the cities where your fame is dreadful or higher.

My first single only got sold in L.A. and New York, since my fame elsewhere wasnt high enough.

Fame rises by playing a show in the city, and I think it depends on your overall fame (and ranking) to see how fast it rises after you played there.

If you get famous somewhere else, it will sell there too during the next update (record updates are wednesday morning).

As for Martin, the costs are all for the record company. The cheapest singles are 0.7 per unit, or 0.8 per unit, and singles give you 3.5 total.
So everything below this 80% royalty would make the record company cash, and yourself as well.

So every single sold, is a profitable one.
Just make sure you have the fame to release one.
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:24 am

Yeah, it's not necessary to have fame in multiple cities. Also copies can be sold even with abysmal or bottom dwelling fame. I meant, without a strong fame in some cities, it won't worth to record something..
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:45 am

Hate to burst your bubble here, but I have Abysmal fame in Russia, and I havent sold a single copy there (I sold 167.000 in one week thats not it, so its just not selling at all over there).

The best scenario is that you start selling at Horrendous fame, which is almost turning into dreadful.

If you get two cities with dreadful fame, and a few at horrendous, I would start thinking about a first single/album.
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:03 am

It's not necessarily means having bottom dwelling fame will make you sell copies but there is a possibility to sell. You know, record sales arebasedonmarketsegment, that may be the reason.. A friend of mine released a single in his 16th day in popomundo and managed to sell 140 copies with only bottom dwelling fame in Moscow and abysmal in Helsinki (or Stockholm, anyway). His name is Spartak Hotliykov, take a look : )

Also there is a 'singles and albums' thread in Turkish forum and it taught me much about single sales, thanks to #8 Puınk, Danny Keene, also a close friend of mine. He said the same afair.
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:21 am

In that case, all I can say is... DAMN RUSSIANS ><
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:48 am

Shhh.. I've got two of them in my band : )
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:00 pm

If they start convincing their fellow country members to also buy my records, I might reconsider my statement.
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:26 pm

could u plz post a list of the different rankings in english? because i use dutch and i dont know wich is wich Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:39 pm

So you've performed at a concert and read your
review but you find it hard to understand just how well things went.
Here are all the words used to describe how well things went. The words
are listed from the BEST to the WORST.

GOD SMACKINGLY GLORIOUS
GOD SMACKING
earth shaking
mind melting
revolutionary
perfect
incredible
wonderful
terrific
great
awesome
splendid
sweet
good
pleasant
nice
decent
above average
mediocre
below average
poor
terrible
dreadful
horrendous
bottom dwelling
abysmal
truly abysmal

Hier is ie dan Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:08 pm

Can you explain how many stars you will get for each rating? I can't figure it out
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:49 pm

stars for ratings? what do you mean?


and btw concerning lower than bottom dwelling fame:

In countries with multiple cities (like Turkey, Spain, Brasil, USA and Canada) the fame is per city. However, it's displayed per country. So you can have truly abysmal fame in Montreal and bottom dwelling in Toronto, you'll have fame in between that as it shows. But your singles will sell in Toronto, and not in Montreal. (Maybe this is not exactly the case, but then it would be a bug).

Hope this explains a little?
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:03 pm

Hmm, I think Merv means something like perfect gives 5*, up from great (?) gives 4* etc.

Not quite sure how the ratings are.
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:26 pm

I sent the single to the record company 2 days ago and it wasn't realesed yet. Why is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:29 pm

They need to order copies first, and they are released on wednesdays. Not sure when everyone releases them exactly (would you mind checking your diary for that and let me know?).
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:32 pm

What?
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PostSubject: Re: Singel   Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:43 pm

Check your diary for a post like "our long awaited record was released to the public", and let me know what date and time that was Smile
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